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2005 House Bill 214 (Medical Assistance Recoveries)

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  • Introduced by Rep. Laura Brod, Rep. Gregory Davids, Rep. Randy Demmer, Rep. Dan Dorman, Rep. Rob Eastlund, Rep. Ron Erhardt, Rep. Sondra Erickson, Rep. Paul Gazelka, Rep. Bob Gunther, Rep. Rod Hamilton, Rep. Bud Heidgerken, Rep. Morrie Lanning, Rep. Doug Magnus, Rep. Paul Marquart, Rep. Peter Nelson, Rep. Scott Newman, Rep. Bud Nornes, Rep. Maxine Penas, Rep. Sandra Peterson, Rep. Connie Ruth, Rep. Char Samuelson, Rep. Dean Simpson, Rep. Judy Soderstrom, Rep. Dean Urdahl, Rep. Andrew Westerberg and Rep. Torrey Westrom on January 13, 2005, to change the effective date to August 1, 2003, for provisions allowing the continuation of a recipient's life estate or joint tenancy interests for purposes of medical assistance recoveries. The bill also requires the commissioner of human services to refund any money already recovered (SF174 Companion Bill).
    • Referred to the House Health Policy and Finance Committee on January 13, 2005.
    • Motion by Rep. Morrie Lanning on January 20, 2005, to add Representatives Soderstrom and Nornes as authors to HF214. The motion passed in the House by voice vote on January 20, 2005.
    • Motion by Rep. Morrie Lanning on January 24, 2005, to add Representative Eastlund as an author of HF214. The motion passed in the House by voice vote on January 24, 2005.
    • Motion by Rep. Morrie Lanning on February 3, 2005, to add Representative Erhardt as author of HF214. The motion passed in the House by voice vote on February 3, 2005.
    • Motion by Rep. Morrie Lanning on March 9, 2005, to add Representative Sandra Peterson as an author of HF214. The motion passed in the House by voice vote on March 9, 2005.
    • Motion by Rep. Morrie Lanning on March 31, 2005, to add Representative Ruth as an author of HF214. The motion passed in the House by voice vote on March 31, 2005.

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Introduced by Rep. Laura Brod, Rep. Gregory Davids, Rep. Randy Demmer, Rep. Dan Dorman, Rep. Rob Eastlund, Rep. Ron Erhardt, Rep. Sondra Erickson, Rep. Paul Gazelka, Rep. Bob Gunther, Rep. Rod Hamilton, Rep. Bud Heidgerken, Rep. Morrie Lanning, Rep. Doug Magnus, Rep. Paul Marquart, Rep. Peter Nelson, Rep. Scott Newman, Rep. Bud Nornes, Rep. Maxine Penas, Rep. Sandra Peterson, Rep. Connie Ruth, Rep. Char Samuelson, Rep. Dean Simpson, Rep. Judy Soderstrom, Rep. Dean Urdahl, Rep. Andrew Westerberg and Rep. Torrey Westrom on January 13, 2005. New Comment

1) Simple Justice [by Anonymous Citizen on June 9, 2005]
A life estate, in the common law, means a retained use of the property during a person's lifetime. In other words, the value of a life estate after it's owner's death is by definition zero.

The IRS table used by the state to establish the "value" of a life estate is designed to establish the value of a gift or donation of the remainder of a property when a life estate is retained. In other words, it establishes the "value" of the life estate owned by a living person.

Taking these together, the State of Minnesota is saying that the life estate of a dead person is now not zero, but rather, a substantial portion of a property's value. For example, a buyer of a property agrees to allow an elderly person to stay there until his death by granting a life estate. After his death, the life estate is supposed to have expired with him and should be worth zero. The State of Minnesota is taking the position that instead, it should be worth 1/3 of the property value for a man who dies at 85.

This is pretty goofy:
- It takes property from innocent people who purchased it in good faith.
- By encumbering propereties with liens, it can make it impossible for owners to get loans to maintain or improve them.
- It represents an after-the-fact, outrageous change in the contractural understanding between two parties.
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2) 2005 House Bill 214 (Medical Assistance Recoveries) [by Anonymous Citizen on May 24, 2005]
Do these clowns expect us to believe they're serious about HB-214 when all they've managed to accomplish in 5 months is to add six more names to the list of those receiving credit for authoring the bill?

Let's get with the program. The puppet masters in the medical community are back-dooring the citizens of this state and they need to be stopped. (some of them need to be jailed)
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